This trial started November 24, 2003 and is ongoing.

 

April 19, 2004
by
hbm

I come in around 9:45.  James Konat is questioning Sergeant Haslett.

Haslett is explaining why he had to make the targets believe they had some value, something to contribute to the crime organization. This would make it more believable: why else would Burns believe that Haslett would go out of his way to help them?  Computers provided a good reason. Now James has moved on to the North Shore News article that nearly blew their cover.  After May 6th scenario at the Four Seasons, the undercover officers concluded (after much discussion amongst themselves) that they needed to go to Bellevue to learn more about the case.  It was done as a precaution against being "tricked" by Burns (as in, if he gave totally incorrect information, Haslett should know, as crime boss, because he had an "inside guy in Bellevue).  Haslett describes SB as reluctant to talk about the murders.  Several spectators present that I don't recognize: a couple of young women, a middle-aged black man.  Guards at door give me smile and nod of acknowledgement when I come in.  Also, the paperboard says "Canadian Glossary" then reads:
Fuck-all
Gonch
Boost
"she"
"straight goods"
Smog
RRSP
Hack
Smurfing

Plus a bunch of other words I can't read from where I'm sitting.  I must have missed a hell of a day last week when that was used.

Haslett has a great Canadian accent.  He’s saying after the 14th and 15th of May, operators had strong suspicions that SB knew he was dealing with police. Haslett and others felt a test was most appropriate: decided to call his house to gauge his tone and responses.

James plays a 5-14-95, channel 34 intercept of the boys reading the North Shore News.

Judge reiterates that the tapes are the evidence; and   the transcripts are guidelines only.  If a juror can't hear it, it doesn't count.  Plays, then stalls.  Haslett is asked to point out segments where the boys are reading verbatim from the article. Without a transcript, this doesn't sound like much to me.  Some parts are dead silent, others near deafening.  They laugh after reading about the undercover cops posing as Mafiosos. Then it sounds like one of them says "Haslett and Shinkaruk" (except their first names, not actually “Haslett” and “Shinkaruk).  Back to being too quiet.  I cannot decipher any irrefutably clear words right now.  Now they're reading again, and it's louder, but still too distorted.

Song interjects about the transcript being wrong: it says SB when Jimmy is actually speaking.  They have to replay it.  First Konat asks Haslett to check if he heard his and Shinkaruk's name uttered.  He confirms he did.  Haslett had not met Jimmy at the time of this intercept, so couldn't accurately identify his voice. After another listen, Haslett says it's NOT Atif reading, it's Jimmy.  But agrees they can't be certain who's saying what.  Veronica objects, and is saying the "Haslett and Shinkaruk" comment was uttered by Jimmy, not Sebastian.  Basically, no one can be sure whether it's Sebastian and Atif, Sebastian and Jimmy, or Jimmy and Atif who are reading this article.

James is asking who Haslett thinks is talking, when, and whether he can identify them.  Veronica objects- foundation (no basis proving that his opinion on this is valid). She's overruled.

Haslett believes the voices are Jimmy, SB, and AR. (Defense's position is that there were only 2 people in the room).  Haslett believed there was a big chance they were being identified as undercover police in this conversation.

Next intercept is from 5-15-95 at 6:00 am: (transcripts distributed to jury.) There's a typo on the transcript.  James makes sure to give a corrected copy to Haslett, which ironically has the wrong date (says the 14th instead of 15th). Haslett believes this conversation is between SB and AR.  I notice that the defendants are sitting very close together, probably sharing a transcript.

On the tape, the boys are listening to some really crazy music- whistling with bells and acoustic guitar.  Sounds like it should be in a western movie: ok this has got to be a soundtrack. I'm seeing visions of Clint Eastwood riding a horse through the dessert, surveying all that lay before him.  Now there's some Spanish mariachi-style horn going...now it's becoming all intense with a Mormon Tabernacle Choir-style pip organ thing in there.   Maybe the guys played this on purpose, because I can't understand a damn thing they're saying.  (After the tape is done, I can only learn what it was about based on what is said about it, so bear with me.)  James reads on pg. 3: "Fuckin', you know, you guys, let's like go for a walk or something."  Tape resumes.  With all this music interfering with what's being said, the only thing I can really decipher is the word "like" over and over again.  I can't help but wonder whether the boys (in the midst of their justifiable paranoia of bugs) purposefully played the music during this conversation.  One of the guards is giggling, perhaps at another guard (who's nodding off?) or at the music, which is quite silly and over the top.

Haslett says the music is the soundtrack from The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, and other Clint Eastwood movies. Bingo!

Project Estate operators decided the best move would be to place a phone call after a bit of a time lapse after hearing these intercepts, in hopes that the North Shore News article wouldn't be quite so fresh in their minds anymore.  They allowed a time lapse because scheduling was also an issue: the officers were also working on other cases. 

The boys read the article on the 14th, discussed it on the 15th. Project Estate operators wanted to give SB idea that he wasn't Haslett and Shinkaruk's main focus: they had other things going on because they really were busy criminals. May 29 is when they decided to make a phone call to the boys' home. The officers discussed several ideas before proceeding, such as telling the boys they had DNA evidence in Bellevue.

Haslett looks like (description removed at the request of the court), with similar skin tone and facial features.  It blows my mind that he could convincingly play a crime boss.

When Shinkaruk placed a phone call to Burns on May 29th, it was with the purpose of "feeling (SB) out," and seeing if he'd be willing to meet with him soon.  (If Burns was willing to meet, which proved to be the case, they could assume he didn't think they were cops).  They actually check with the monitor room to make sure their target(s) are actually there before making a call.

Konat is now playing Shinkaruk's 5-29-95, channel 35, 6:16 pm phone call to Sebastian Burns. In lieu of each ring of the phone, an intolerably obnoxious squealing and beeping begins each of these tapes.  SB answers and says he's "glad to hear from (him)."  Shinkaruk wants to come over.  Shinkaruk will call Burns at 10 pm next day, maybe later because he has "shit to do."  Haslett: this call made him think SB still wanted to participate with the organization, and that their cover was not blown.

Now we hear the channel 34 intercept from inside the house at the time of the phone call between Shinkaruk and SB: phone ringing. I hear Sebastian talking to Shinkaruk on the phone.  Deja vu.  Banging around and some sighing and singing of the Beatles "Happiness is a warm gun" after the phone call.  Everyone is stifling giggles.

4:35 (I think pm) May, I believe this must be the following day (May 30): Another intercept, beginning with the standard squealing/beeping for each ring of the phone.  It's taking quite a few rings for an answer this time.  A very sleepy-sounding Atif answers the call.  It's Sebastian calling to tell him know he'll be home in about ten minutes, and to tell Shinkaruk that if he calls before he gets there.  Atif agrees, and both hang up.  Haslett says this also made them confident their cover was intact.

All morning, James has been trying to demonstrate that the boys believed Haslett and Shinkaruk were really cops.  I'm surprised at this angle.  It's a weird argument to take from my point of view, because I thought one would have to believe the boys thought there was a good chance Shinkaruk and Haslett were cops when they confessed, or why else would they have given contradictory stories?  The prosecution is arguing they made a true confession out of fear because they really believed the two were gangsters.  That argument doesn't explain all the contradictions in their stories to Haslett and Shinkaruk.  If they were scared into making a true confession, and given how angered Haslett became when he thought he was being lied to, wouldn't they have made sure their stories matched?  If they were telling the truth, both of them, wouldn't their stories have matched automatically?  Anyway, I had expected the prosecution to argue that their contradictory statements were calculated on their part due to suspicions that the "gangsters" were really cops, to use as proof of their innocence should they be caught.  But that shows what I know.  Anyway...

11:01 BREAK.
I talk with Marc Stenchever and Veronica for a while.  Court resumes about 15 minutes later.

7:06 pm, 5-30-95: In conversation inside the house, the boys talking about Shinkaruk.

Next call (suddenly we're flying through them, so I didn't catch when this was): SB answers call from Shinkaruk.  It's the one we've heard already during Shinkaruk's testimony with SB saying "Beotch."  Next we listen to the same phone conversation from within the house (so it includes conversation before and after Shinkaruk's call). Not sure why. When Sebastian picks up the phone, he tells Shinkaruk he's “been waiting with baited breath." Excited yelling ensues after he hangs up. I can't decipher much of anything. Sounds like maybe the boys were talking about going to see a movie.  LOTS of dead air, then background chattering I can't make out.

After this call, officers decided to go with a money-laundering scenario in Victoria. Involved common criminal practice called "smurfing," in which money is moved around to various accounts (this is all familiar territory).  Canadian law is to not check/record transactions under $10K, so they kept it under that. This was the first time Haslett has ever done smurfing in a scenario.  Had to research the process, then retained the funds and set up accounts (white collar proceeds of crime investigators did this). Now Haslett is going over boring details of doing paperwork to get funds for this scenario.  Chose Victoria because it had plenty of banks (couldn't go to the same banks or risk attracting teller attention.  These transactions were made with actual accounts, and the tellers had no idea there was anything unusual about them.  If Burns and Miyoshi had botched the job and aroused suspicion, they could have caused the operation to be exposed). Also chose Victoria to take SB out of his element, to make him feel more comfortable (because he had indicated he suspected his home was bugged).  Also, since he brought Jimmy, they hoped they'd catch good conversation between the two of them (while they shared a hotel room).  They prepared for possibility of evidentiary conversation taking place during this scenario.

Haslett reads a two-page advisory from Detective Bob Thompson sent to the RCMP that May (in order to explain the case to Canadian investigators).  It’s a synopsis of the whole case from the Bellevue Police Department's point of view.  It re-caps the defendants’ activities the night of the murders, including the defendants (alleged) attempts to make themselves known/memorable while out on the town.  The discrepancies in their statements once they reached the Rafay home at the end of the night (such as their different versions of finding Tariq’s body) are noted in the report.  It continues: Atif and Sebastian said they heard Basma, but didn't go help her. They gave contradictory stories about discovering Sultana's body.  Blood spatter, indicative of a 6' tall perpetrator, and lots of hair were found in the shower drain.  Report asserts that if anyone other than SB had showered since, his hair would have been washed down, and the other person’s hair would have been left in its place.  Three pairs of boxers were found in the washer: two pairs size 30", one pair 32."  Pubic hair of Caucasian origin was found on Tariq's bed. There was money missing from his room, though money was left alone in another part of the house.  The Bellevue police believed this was an attempt by the defendants to make it look like a robbery.

Back to the smurfing scenario.  SB was advised by Shinkaruk that bringing someone might be better.  He brought Jimmy with him to the Royal Scott Hotel.  The Project Estate officers obtained a couple of rooms, one for monitoring. Konat asks: how did Jimmy and SB get to the ferry that goes to Vancouver Island from Tuwasan (no idea if this is correct spelling)? Haslett says they came on their own, in their own vehicle.  James enters exhibit 523: a huge blow-up map of Vancouver Island that Haslett points at with a pointer stick to help things out here.  Haslett indicates where they got off.  Royal Scott is in the southern end, within blocks of the BC capital’s provincial government buildings.  Burns and Miyoshi drove from the ferry (Sydney, N. End of island) to the south end in their own vehicle.  They had caught either the 10am or slightly later ferry.  Haslett didn't meet or know who Sebastian brought along until June 15 at 12:56 pm, after they arrived.  He went to the room 417, where Jimmy, Sebastian, and Shinkaruk were hanging out. 

12:15- Time to break for lunch: will hear tapes of the Royal Scott conversations afterwards.

1:15: On my way back in, I hold the door for Judge Mertel, and realize he's wearing the COOLEST sunglasses ever!!!  I have to compliment him.  They're huge, and both the frames and lenses are red.  He's also wearing a green suit (it’s vaguely leisure-suit-ish), a purple and green striped tie, and I believe a blue and yellow shirt sort of plaid shirt.  It’s amazing.

Hat lady is talking intently, excitedly to Noel about blood tests and forensics.  He’s saying “uh, huh…uh, huh…yeah it’s amazing.” 

1:49- All counsel is present, and I'm sitting patiently behind Annie (guest writer for April 14!) and her friend, waiting.  Everyone's chatting.  Where ARE the defendants and when is the jury coming in?  I hear a hearty guffaw from the jury room.  Two women come in: one older, one younger.  Older one talks briefly to Davidheiser.  She's attractive and professionally dressed in a light gray suit, and sports hip eyeglass frames.  The younger one is….less so. 

1:52- Judge comes in.  Haslett paces around the front. Konat gives more transcripts to Judge. Everyone starts chatting and joking with Shyrell.  Veronica is talking about a dream she's had...something about how this trial is like the movie Groundhog's Day. Judge chats with Haslett.  James chats with the defense.  He asks how long their closing arguments will take.  Veronica says 20 minutes, laughing.  Jeff says he’s going to try to keep it around two hours.  James, on the other hand, says he will take around six hours, because “I have the burden of proof.”  Marc responds with: “Yeah, and lots of useless evidence to present.”  Of course, they still have to decide for sure whether each defendant will testify.  Jeff jokes that he’s planning on flipping a coin. They move on to discussing the witness list, then wander into more casual topics.  Specifically, gambling.  They heard of someone who sold everything he owned, went to Vegas, put all his money in the world (around $150,000) on a single roulette wheel bet, and doubled his money.  James thinks the roulette wheel is a fabulous way to spend a long period of time shooting the breeze with a bunch of friends, drinking free drinks.  They move on to black jack.  Song loves the $2 table.  Song and Veronica get angry and quit gambling once they’ve lost $20.  I am amused by this because that is precisely my own limit.  Whether it takes me 5 hours or a few minutes, I quit when I'm down $20, angry at the utter pointlessness of it all.  Bob Thompson enters the court, and informs a disappointed Song that he failed to find her a dessert downstairs.

Defendants are brought in at 1:57, followed by the usual tie/belt adjustments.  James also makes an adjustment and adds a jacket.  Jeff isn’t here yet, but court is going ahead anyway.

The jury comes in at 2:01 and James resumes.  He distributes the transcript of a phone call to the jurors. Jeff Robinson comes in.

6:39 pm: It's SB and Shinkaruk talking on the phone again.  Unfortunately, the jury has the wrong transcript. When they don’t say anything for a good 20 seconds into the tape, then complain, James says "it took you long enough" and the jury all giggles collectively.

They get it all sorted out and resume the tape:

Shinkaruk:  Do you know who this is?
Burns: Yes...(Shinkaruk) the man.
Shinkaruk: you don't sound as energetic as usual

Burns seems to respond to this by making a bunch of lively noises and hooting.  Shinkaruk asks "are you into making some coin tomorrow?" then "the day after?" Shinkaruk says he wants him to come to Victoria, BC, but does say here if Burns doesn't want to go he doesn't have to.  SB is aghast that he wants him to be in Victoria in two days at noon.  He says its "kinda rough" transportation-wise. Shinkaruk says it would “help matters” if he brought someone, and he needs to know the same day whether SB is going to go or not (Shinkaruk will call back at 10 that night to check).  Shinkaruk refers to money only as "coin."

Next phone call:
6-14-95: portions of call between Jimmy and a female named Ayako.  Jimmy says he “might go to Victoria tomorrow to see some guys.”  The woman is speaking Japanese at some parts. He responds in English I think.  It’s hard to understand what’s being said, and not just because I don't speak Japanese.  Apparently Burns and Miyoshi are going to drive a mustang to the Royal Scott.

Then we hear the June 14 tape of Shinkaruk calling back: Jimmy answers first, then we hear SB demanding the phone from him.  He tells Shinkaruk they're on for tomorrow.  Shinkaruk tells SB where to find the hotel.  He's going to be in room 417. Shinkaruk says he's depending on him.  He's getting a 10am ferry.

Now we hear the June 14, Channel 34 (house) tape of the same phone conversation we just listened to. Hear Jimmy answer....Feedback noise. Despite this being a recording from inside the house, Shinkaruk is somehow audible here too, which I don’t really understand.  SB gives a silly "ha ha ha" (which Shinkaruk repeats, confused at why Burns uttered it), then SB says he doesn't know where the hotel is.  The conversation closes with Burns saying “the only way I'll be late is if there's no 10 o’clock ferry."  Shinkaruk says "there fuckin' will be," to which Burns responds "then I'll fuckin' be there."

In the house conversation after SB hangs up, Jimmy asks "are you sure they respect you?" It’s just he and SB talking.  I notice that a lot of the jury isn't reading the transcripts.  In fact, most appear not to be.  It sounds to me like SB is explaining the Haslett/Shinkaruk relationship to Jimmy. I really can't hear well, only catching snippets like “Shinkaruk is the number two guy, and that’s how it is” or something along those lines.

June 15 and 16:
When the boys arrived in room 417, Shinkaruk called Haslett and he came down to the room.

Purpose of this scenario: Haslett wanted Burns to see a different side of the crime ring (money vs. petty car stealing).  He also wanted to spend more time with SB.  Haslett explained to them how the smurfing unfolded, how safe it was to SB and Jimmy, and instructed them to not "bring any heat," meaning to NOT bring any undo attention to themselves.  Haslett explains the smurfing process is as simple as handing the money with a deposit slip (pre-filled out for the boys’ convenience) to the teller, she/he'll stamp it, and they’ll be on their way.

Haslett decided to include the “NO HEAT” instructions because SB had expressed concern about getting in trouble.  He didn't want any unnecessary attention on him or any of this associated with his name, and Haslett wanted to make him forget his concern for this and move forward with the scenario.

Haslett and Shinkaruk did a dry run of the smurfing before the defendants came to town.  For the scenario, Shinkaruk drove the boys around to banks, while Haslett followed undetected behind them with Inspector Henderson.  They monitored the car conversation.

Haslett describes the configuration of the room at the Royal Scott hotel.  It had a sitting area with couches/chairs, separate bed area, kitchenette.

James asks if any interesting subject was raised prior to embarking on the afternoon of smurfing.  Why yes there was, Haslett tell us. Sebastian asked if he'd “done his homework” (in reference to Haslett finding out information about the situation in Bellevue).  To keep with the role of crime boss, Haslett decided to brush him off at that time.  He didn’t want Sebastian to think it was high-priority for him.

Shinkaruk's car had a transmitter in it. Unfortunately it was not 100% effective, and they had to follow very closely to the vehicle to pick up a signal. At 1:08 pm, the boys and Shinkaruk departed for the smurfing.  Haslett left the hotel just minutes behind, and was back at 3:38 pm. Shinkaruk, Jimmy, Sebastian were already back when he returned.

James plays a Royal Scott Hotel June 15 conversation that took place before SB and Jimmy departed for smurfing.  It jumps in at some midpoint and it sounds like they’re discussing some weird things that have made them suspicious: they think some cops stole Sebastian's bike.  They’re kind of jumping around.  Jimmy says he's “faster with the wit, not the whip” than SB.  Discussion moves to the movie.  Burns says they’ve worked on the script, and will start filming in July or August.  They need to cast lots of extras.  Describe how thick traffic was getting to south Victoria. Haslett calls, and Shinkaruk talks to him.  Jimmy says they were leaving tire tracks all over the highway getting there.  They drove in one vehicle.  Shinkaruk gives them expense money.  Now on to discussing cars. SB says the Acura NSX-T is the right car for Shinkaruk, who already has a Corvette and Trans Am.  They make fun of Shinkaruk: “I thought only Asian guys drive automatic sports cars.”  Jimmy makes a comment that makes zero sense to me, something about if he wants to be Asian, he should put a garlic clove on head.  (We later find out, when James asks Haslett to explain this, that Jimmy was wearing his hair in a ponytail at the front of his head, with the hair splayed up and forward in a fashion reminiscent of a clove of garlic.  No idea why he thought this would be a good idea, especially when they don't want "no heat.")  They’re talking about getting SB a Mustang. SB didn't understand Haslett's answer to his request for a car.  Haslett didn't seem to be interested.  SB is saying he and Haslett don't "get" each other, using their conversation about Woody Allen conversation as an example.

Haslett comes in and meets Jimmy.  He starts explaining what they're doing. Depositing under $10,000 shouldn't require ID.  If it does, it’s no biggie, they can choose to show it or not.  If they don't want to show it, or answer any questions, they should just leave.  The account is under a business name, and they'll say they work for this business.  Now they’re back to talking about the cops stealing his bike again.  This apparently has made SB pretty paranoid.  James stops the tape and asks about this.  Haslett doesn't know anything about the bike, and it has nothing to do with Project Estate. The RCMP did in fact try to bug the boys’ (or Rafay family’s) brown Honda while the boys were away as part of the project, but the bike is a mystery.  According to Jimmy’s voice on the tape, cops had been to the house before because the boys had been "hassling their neighbors" and saw his bike (not sure if it’s Burns or Miyoshi’s bike), not locked up.  The cops said they should lock it up, and if it got stolen to call them (snidely).  The weird thing is, Burns saw a police vehicle leaving the immediate vicinity of their home one day, and then discovered the bike missing.

Burns mentions the “did you do your homework” comment here, before they departed.  Haslett waved his hand and said "later."

Break.
Defendants are back at 3:20. There’s a guard today that I've never seen before.  AR chats with Marc and Veronica; SB chats with Jeff; Song on phone (she apparently saw Marc's house this weekend, which is on the market); James and Haslett confer.

Judge in at 3:22. Shyrell gets jury ready. Jury in at 3:24.

Judge tells everyone to sit and James resumes.

They briefly clarify the garlic clove comment (see above.)

Resume tape.  They're talking about Jimmy's hair.  SB tells him to take it down.

SB: broaches subject to Shinkaruk of being more discrete on the phone next time, as opposed to openly talking about "making coin."

Shinkaruk then asks the boys what beer they want to drink. Jimmy apparently is fond of Rogue Ale, but neither of them are big drinkers.

Depart to smurf at 6 banks. Shinkaruk goes to pre-arranged phone both to call Haslett. Undercover operators taped SB and Jimmy's conversation in the car while he was away.  They wanted to gauge their responses to what had happened in that scenario. SB told Jimmy he wanted to talk to Haslett alone. Haslett relayed this to Shinkaruk on the phone.  They agreed Shinkaruk would leave deposit stubs in his car on purpose. When back at hotel, Shinkaruk would leave under the pretext of getting them, so SB, Haslett, and Jimmy could talk alone. Haslett drew SB away, out of earshot from Jimmy. 

Resume tape:
Jimmy explains he doesn't drink because as a "yellow person" he gets flushed.  It also makes him puke, then drink more.  He finds he "doesn't need to go to parties and get drunk." They're talking about Rogue Beer again. SB offered Jimmy water, and Shinkaruk jokes like he's upset he didn't offer him anything. Tells him to offer Haslett a beer when he comes in (he enters here). Shinkaruk tells SB to "socialize over some water." When Haslett enters, Shinkaruk whispering "offer him water...offer him water..." is audible.  SB says "I'm supposed to offer you a glass of water.'' They continue to chat about water, opening beers with teeth, silverware. SB says "Mmmm...I'm gonna taste my cookies" in a sing-song voice. There's the rustling of a cookie bag.  Shinkaruk and Haslett do the bit about retrieving the deposit slips, and Shinkaruk leaves.  Haslett asks if Shinkaruk gave them expense money, and if they're ok staying the night. James stops the tape so Haslett can explain it was good to have them stay the night in case they talked about the murders, the scenario, or what they think of Shinkaruk and Haslett.

James is questioning about the ferry again.  Transportation was about $40, and Shinkaruk had given them $300. They never expressed interest in leaving, or that they didn't want to stay and continue the "work." SB suggests in complete seriousness that they do the following day's banks on roller blades, because it's charming and makes people react positively. No one would ever suspect roller-blading dorks off white-collar crime.  Haslett says no, maybe next time.

 SB says again now "so, did you do your research?" Regarding their 5-6-95 conversation about Bellevue. Haslett made it look like he didn't want to say things in front of Jimmy, and asks Sebastian to come to the partitioned-off bed section of the room.  Jimmy unfortunately misunderstood and followed them over, so Haslett sent him away. Haslett tells SB about his guy in Bellevue - Song objects (tape speaks for itself)- overruled- Haslett continues: he has a good guy in the states, and "when he knows, you'll know." SB says ok, and adds "you can say anything in front of (Miyoshi)."

They rejoin Jimmy. SB asks if Haslett knows any good lawyers "for future reference." Haslett says he'll "get him a top gun lawyer."  Haslett saying "lawyers cost fuckin' money," and "the less (he) has to deal with them the better."  Haslett is basically discouraging them from getting a lawyer.  SB says they are well-practiced at "distracting people with bizarre tidbits of social stimulus" in reference to the roller-blade smurfing approach they wanted to use.

Haslett says they should meet the following day at 11 am, and "they'll be done by fuckin' noon."

General joking and chit-chat. Jimmy says if a bank asks for ID and he's really desperate, he can act like he doesn't speak English.

Discussion goes back to macking (an old stand-by subject), then on to seeing tourist attractions while they're in the neighborhood.  Sebastian suggests going to the wax museum.  (Incidentally, this is my personal favorite attraction in Victoria, and I recommend it to all who visit the city).

Now they're back to talking about Burns and Rafay's movie.  Burns says the "script is brilliant...I'm confident we're going to make a few bucks...It's for sure to uh, get uh, like either, either the Cannes or Sundance Film Festival." Shinkaruk has never heard of Sundance.  SB explains, then goes on to say Muriel's Wedding is a horrible movie.  Someone opens a bottle with their teeth, and it grosses everyone out. SB is pontificating on why John Travolta was cast in Pulp Fiction, and then adds: "Samuel L. Jackson is fuckin' AWESOME." Then we end for the day.

The jury exits, and Judge Mertel says: "this is brutal, and I urge you to expedite it."

RD has issues: copies of something from Canadian court. Didn't quite catch this.  Had to catch a bus outside instead.

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